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On that day Jehovah concluded with Abram a covenant, saying: “To your seed I will give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the river Euphrates." -- Genesis 15:18


According to the Bible, Jehovah provided much needed INSPIRED LEADERSHIP in the first century and in ancient times (like in the days of Moses), and yet are we to believe He refuses to see the need of providing it in our day and time??? Does this make sense to you? Does this seem consistent to you? (See John 16:13, 14)
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[This post is an excerpt taken from the article "God's Sacred Secret, the Spirit of Truth & Elijah" found at this link: http://livingwatersforum.com/phpBB3/vie ... 9&p=32#p32 ]

]Gaining A Better Understanding Of The Three Resurrections!


Part 4. The “Seed" of Eve And The Great Sacred Secret or "Mystery of God" Revealed!

Genesis 3:15 says,

"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." -- King James Version

As we see above, actually, Jehovah God placed the "enmity" as follows:

"Woman" VS "Serpent"


"seed" of Woman VS "seed" of Serpent

Thus, the real battle we should expect will be between the two "seeds", while they both exist upon earth. It is a human "enmity" that exists, that God created between them. And they express their mutual hatred and "enmity" between themselves, in an earthly setting.

That's why Psalms 2:1, 2 says,

"Why have the nations been in tumult and the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing? The (a) kings of earth take their stand and (b) high officials themselves have MASSED TOGETHER AS ONE against Jehovah and against his anointed one."

They work together against Jehovah's choice, Jehovah's appointed Messiah.

So then, the first century fulfillment of this "enmity" expressed between these two "seeds" is revealed at Acts 4:26-28 which says,

"The (a) kings of the earth took their stand and the (b) rulers [of Israel] HAVE MASSED TOGETHER AS ONE against Jehovah and against his anointed one. Even so, both Herod and Pontius Pilate with men of nations and with peoples of Israel were in actuality gathered together in this city against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed. in order to do what things your hand and counsel had foreordained to occur."

Modern Day fulfillment:

Revelation 11:15 which says,

  • "...The kingdom of the world [that Satan rules; "wild beast" and company] did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he [Jehovah] will rule as king forever and ever." -- New World Translation

The "Spirit of Truth" who "gave the world convincing evidence" on sin, righteousness and judgment, but was at first totally IGNORED, will be the one that God uses as his earthly "Christ." or "anointed one." And in this capacity he, as the "Spirit of Truth," will subsequently lead mankind into "all truth", "declare the things coming," and will invariably prove to be this newly installed, earthly "Christ" of God's choosing. -- John 14:17; 16:8, 13; Revelation 11:15

When Jehovah takes this action, and gives all earthly authority to his chosen one, the "Spirit of Truth," this of course will anger Satan greatly.

This singular act of God, no doubt leads to great conflict...Armageddon!

In fact, we see during the next few verses of Revelation 11th chapter, this event described for us in detail.

It states:

  • "And the twenty-four elders who were seated before God upon their thrones fell upon their faces and worshiped God, saying We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and begun ruling as king. But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth." -- Revelation 11:16-18 New World Translation

Within these few verses, we find very vital information, that explains what magnificent event has just occurred.

First, this bible passage tells us, Jehovah will have become "King," and His Rulership from that point, lasts "forever and ever." This of course raises an interesting question, namely: how can Jehovah begin His Universal Rulership, when Jesus is ruling? If Jehovah is Ruling, then Jesus is NOT ruling, because they cannot be "ruling" the Universe AT THE SAME TIME, can they?

But again, before you attempt to answer that particular question we raise, in the affirmative, let's consider the following irrefutable facts.

Let's again notice within these verses, that it tells us pointedly, "the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came." Clearly, this is speaking of the event we call or know as "Armageddon," is it not? Surely, this is the time God "brings to ruin, those ruining the earth," is it not? (See Revelation 11:18.)

Then too, based upon this bible passage, does it not tell us the resurrection of the "dead" are now brought to life, at this time? And it is the exact time for God to "reward" his "slaves," the "prophets" of old, isn't that so? There can be no doubt then, this resurrection can only refer to the EARTHLY RESURRECTION promised all the faithful men of old, "slaves of God," the "prophets" of old, upon whom the actual book of Revelation was based upon. (Please compare Acts 3:24 with Revelation 22:6.)

There can be no question but this speaks of the final resurrection, that is spoken of in Acts 24:15, where both the "righteous and the unrighteous" are given life again, upon earth. How do we know this for sure?

Well, let's take a close look at something Paul mentioned for our benefit as shown at 1 Corinthians 15:23-26 which says:

  • "But each one in his own rank: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence [Greek: parousia]. Next, THE END, when he [Jesus] hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. For he [Jesus] must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing." -- New World Translation

So now, we have a dramatic point to consider, namely when in fact, does Jesus Christ's Heavenly Rulership, actually end? When? Yes, that is the question.

To help us answer that all important question, let's consider the following.

Does not the above bible passage show us, unequivocally, there are three (3) resurrections up for consideration? The first one mentioned is the heavenly resurrection of Jesus, which is of first importance and "rank." Second, Paul mentions the resurrection of those "who belong to Christ," the anointed of his, who were given the "spirit of adoption" from Jehovah, to become "joint-heirs" with Jesus, and to receive a heavenly resurrection. (Romans 8:14-17) And this resurrection of the "anointed" going to heaven, occurs...not at Armageddon or "the end," but at his "parousia" only. Isn't that what Paul said under inspiration? Which means of course, his inspired account blends well with John's inspired account too, as shown in the book of Revelation. Therefore we can see clearly, the heavenly resurrection of the anointed of Christ, the ones "that belong to him," absolutely occurs during his "parousia," is that not so?

Then too, it is good to keep in mind, the heavenly resurrection itself, does not occur in stages, as if some of the "anointed" go to heaven AHEAD OF others of the "anointed." No but Paul made it clear, all of the "anointed" of God, go to heaven AT THE SAME TIME, just as the bible tells us at 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17. Let's consider these verses together:

  • "For this is what we tell you by Jehovah's word, that we the living who survive to the presence [Greek: parousia] of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep [in death]; because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, TOGETHER WITH THEM, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with [the] Lord. -- New World Translation

Therefore, none of those heaven-bound "christians," actually "PRECEDES" any other of the "anointed" destined for heavenly life, in the heavenly resurrection at Jesus' "parousia." According to Paul under inspiration, they all go ... "TOGETHER." All of which means, Jehovah's Witnesses are currently teaching the heavenly resurrection stretches out for many years, allowing for "anointed" ones on earth as they die, since the year of 1919, to be resurrected to heavenly life. But Paul's words here, firmly disagree with such a faulty conclusion. The words of Paul are clear here ... the "anointed" are ALL resurrected to heaven, AT THE SAME TIME. Think about it. -- Please see 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 & 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52 New World Translation.

Finally, Paul shows us, the third resurrection of importance, as he mentions the final resurrection, the earthly one. At this resurrection, Paul point blank tells us it occurs ... AT "THE END," WHICH IS CLEARLY ARMAGEDDON, is that not so?

Now, this viewpoint then, would agree totally with the prophet Daniel's bible account of things, as described for us at Daniel 12:1, 2, again where "Armageddon" is described for us vividly as "the time of distress," the time of such "distress" where no distress has ever occurred before like it, a time of the greatest distress ever, even "since there came to be a nation until that time." And that has to be, Armageddon. Isn't that what the verse is saying?

Let's consider that bible account, which says:

  • "And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people. And there will certainly occur a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, every one who is found written down in the book. And there will be many of those asleep in the ground of dust who will wake up, these to indefinitely lasting life and those to reproaches [and] to indefinitely lasting abhorrence." -- Daniel 12:1, 2 New World Translation

After reading this bible account carefully, we can clearly see the particular resurrection that the prophet Daniel describes for us, as well as when it actually occurs. The time for this particular resurrection is, yes, none other than the time the bible calls "Armageddon" or "Har-magedon." (Revelation 16:16) And we can clearly see this is an EARTHLY RESURRECTION too, since the people that are given life are again said to be made up of two distinctly different groups. Those resurrected at this time are said to gain (a) "indefinitely lasting life," as well as those who will receive a resurrection to (b) "reproaches [and] to indefinitely lasting abhorrence." And of course, we know this would not be true of those who are receiving a heavenly resurrection, isn't that so? So then, we know this bible account is speaking of an EARTHLY RESURRECTION, and nothing else. -- Acts 24:15; Revelation 11:18

Then too, the bible account speaks of the time for this particular resurrection, the earthly resurrection. It speaks of a time of great "distress" when this resurrection is done. So then, this great time of "distress," then is when Michael "stands up" in behalf of all of God's People, all of those who are deemed by God, as being "righteous" upon this earth. Yes, Michael is "standing up" in behalf of all of those who are "written down in the book [of life]," all of those alive upon earth who have actually served God in faithfulness. And those are simply, irrefutable facts, are they not? So then, at this time then, would be the appropriate time, the aforementioned time designated, for the EARTHLY resurrection of God, which occurs as Paul said ... yes, at "The End". -- Acts 24:15; Daniel 12:1, 2; 1 Corinthians 15:24; Revelation 11:18

Think about it.

So then, within these few verses, namely Revelation 11:15-18, we have the earthly resurrection occurring, alongside the beginning of God's Eternal "Rulership" over earth, as "King," and lasting as it says, "forever and ever." Which means, Jesus' heavenly rulership is to end at this point, and he is now going to "hand the kingdom" back to His God and Father, where God can be "all things to everyone" living. (1 Corinthians 15:28) This grand event the verse shows, now occurs in connection with the Great Destructive Day of "Armageddon," when God's Great "Wrath" is laid upon the "wrathful nations," those incorrigibly wicked among mankind. So, these two events go together, we can see. (Revelation 16:16) And since it mentions at this time, a particular "Christ" that belongs to God as coming into power at this late time, as of "Armageddon," then we must concede, this one is a new "Christ," and new Messiah of God that Jehovah is unveiling to all of mankind. These events, thus help us understand exactly what is occurring as foretold by the prophet Daniel, at Daniel 7:13, 14. It is the crowning of a "new" Christ, a "new" Messiah of God, gaining all earthly authority over mankind's earthly governments world wide, with God's Permission. (See 2nd Psalms.) Additionally, this explains why the very next verse, verse 19 shows him to picture, yes, the "Ark of the Covenant" of God! -- See Revelation 11:19.

Daniel 7:13, 14 tells us:

  • "I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! With the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days he gained access, and they brought him up close even before that One. And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin." -- New World Translation

Now after reading this bible account, what stands out to us is the clear point, that this particular "son of man" ruler, actually receives his "indefinitely lasting rulership" over mankind, from the "Ancient of Days," Jehovah Himself. So then, he is God's Selection. He is appointed, theocratically and not through any democratic or man-made means. And this decision on God's part, is after yes, Jehovah has considered the "books," or the annals of human history and its futile attempts at self-rulership or autonomy, independent of His Holy Guidance and Counsel, ever since the "Garden of Eden." (Daniel 7:9, 10; Proverbs 21:30; Romans 11:33-36) And doesn't it clearly say after receiving it, he "rules" ... forever, till "time indefinite"? So then, how can we say, this rulership pictures the reign of Jesus Christ, whom the bible clearly says DOES NOT rule forever, no, but he must relinquish his heavenly "rulership" at some point, to Jehovah God, The Almighty. Yes, Jesus must, at some point, give up his "rulership" and give it back to Jehovah. So then, his "rulership" then, IS NOT an "indefinitely lasting rulership," is that not so? And we know Jesus is doing this, so that Jehovah can become "all things to everyone," isn't that so? -- See 1 Corinthians 15:24, 28.

Therefore, this particular "Ruler," this special "anointed one," or "christ" in Daniel 7:13, 14 then, WOULD NOT, in any way fashion or form, picture Jesus Christ as a newly crowned "king" since we know Jesus has already been enthroned ever since the first century upon his heavenly resurrection itself, when he was righteously "declared" a permanent "Son of God." (Please see Matthew 28:18; Ephesians 1:20-22; Romans 1:4; Revelation 1:5; Revelation 3:21.) And according to 1 Corinthians 15:25, 26, with the destruction of the "wrathful" nations of Revelation 11:18, those spoken of at Psalms 2, yes, those who oppose God's Authority and Kingship at Armageddon, must be destroyed, after which Jesus now performs his final resurrection, the resurrection of the "dead" who were promised earthly life...ALL DONE BEFORE THE 1,000-YEAR REIGN OF PEACE BEGINS.

Think about it!

Just as Revelation 16:13, 14 says,

"And I saw three unclean inspired expressions that looked like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to GATHER THEM TOGETHER to the war of the great day of God the Almighty."

The "wild beast" and the "false prophet" = "seed" of Serpent (Gen. 3:15)

The "'Spirit of Truth," as an imperfect man = "seed" of Woman [Eve] (Gen. 3:15)

Thus alas, no more "hazy outline" or "obscure expression" present in Holy Scripture that Paul spoke of in 1 Corinthians 13:12. (See article entitled When That Which Is Complete Arrives
for detail discussion of 1 Corinthians 13:10-12.) No, but the first prophecy of the bible, the one spoken of at Genesis 3:15 is completely fulfilled! The Great Sacred Secret or "Mystery of God" is indeed, "FINISHED!" -- See Revelation 10:7.

And of course, as far as Satan goes, the scriptures reveal it is Jehovah Himself, that actually destroys Satan...not the Messianic "Seed" himself, as many religionists mistakenly think today. -- See Romans 16:20.

The End of Part 4.

Questions for article: The "Spirit of Truth" and "Elijah" (Part 4)

39. According to Genesis 3:15 between what parties does Jehovah put enmity or hatred?

40. Between which of these entities will the real hatred be expressed and where will it take place?

41. In a typical sense, how was this hatred between Satan’s seed and the Woman’s seed expressed in the first century? (See Acts 4:26-28; Psalms 2:1, 2)

42. How will this hatred between these two seeds be expressed in our modern times?

43. Who is the modern-day ‘seed of the serpent’ and the ‘seed of the woman’ in this drama?

44. In the final analysis, who will be the one that will destroy Satan?

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